{"data":{"id":14342,"title":"Showdown! \"Remembrance Day Boycott\"","rsi_url":"https:\/\/robertsspaceindustries.com\/comm-link\/spectrum-dispatch\/14342-Showdown-Remembrance-Day-Boycott","api_url":"https:\/\/api.star-citizen.wiki\/api\/comm-links\/14342","api_public_url":"https:\/\/api.star-citizen.wiki\/comm-links\/14342","channel":"Undefined","category":"Undefined","series":"News Update","images":[{"id":456,"name":"ShowdownLogo2b_Crop.jpg","rsi_url":"https:\/\/robertsspaceindustries.com\/media\/er8zycofrfrnor\/source\/ShowdownLogo2b_Crop.jpg","alt":"","size":540017,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","last_modified":"2015-07-22T01:35:09+00:00","api_url":"https:\/\/api.star-citizen.wiki\/api\/comm-link-images\/456","similar_url":"https:\/\/api.star-citizen.wiki\/api\/comm-link-images\/456\/similar"},{"id":26463,"name":"source.jpg","rsi_url":"https:\/\/media.robertsspaceindustries.com\/weozjmuuh3hwh\/source.jpg","alt":"","size":843046,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","last_modified":"2019-09-19T15:49:32+00:00","api_url":"https:\/\/api.star-citizen.wiki\/api\/comm-link-images\/26463","similar_url":"https:\/\/api.star-citizen.wiki\/api\/comm-link-images\/26463\/similar"},{"id":27892,"name":"source.jpg","rsi_url":"https:\/\/media.robertsspaceindustries.com\/w3o9r4zgppm77\/source.jpg","alt":"","size":900916,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","last_modified":"2021-09-06T14:48:40+00:00","api_url":"https:\/\/api.star-citizen.wiki\/api\/comm-link-images\/27892","similar_url":"https:\/\/api.star-citizen.wiki\/api\/comm-link-images\/27892\/similar"}],"images_count":8,"translations":{"en_EN":"SHOWDOWN!\nAuto-Transcript for S&P and NFSC Submission\nEP: 57:78 : \u201cRemembrance Day Boycott\u201d\nERIA QUINT: It is time once again for another Showdown, the best source on the spectrum for fair and in-depth analysis of today\u2019s most important issues. I\u2019m your host, Eria Quint. It was close to two hundred years ago that the death of Anthony Tanaka sparked a revolution. As we look to honor him with tomorrow\u2019s traditional remembrance, a new movement prepares to use December 3rd to once again ignite people into action. What started weeks ago as a grass roots movement by the Humanist group Empire First has swelled beyond anyone\u2019s expectations as masses of people from every system in the UEE prepare to participate in a widespread xeno-economical boycott and protest. With us today to explain her group\u2019s motivations is Suvi Lorenzo, leader and founding member of Empire First.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Thanks for having me.\n\nERIA QUINT: And arguing for the benefits of Human-Alien financial cooperation, joining us for his second appearance, Carte Bosch, VP of Human Affairs for Jysho Corporation.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Glad to be back.\n\nERIA QUINT: A few weeks ago, Jysho Corporation announced that they would be opening their tenth CTR fuel station by the end of the year and \u2013\n\nCARTE BOSCH: The people on Green are in for a treat as the Ellis system store is shaping up to be CTR\u2019s new flagship. State of the art everything with prices you\u2019d swear were from last century.\n\nERIA QUINT: If you could try to keep the interruptions and plugs to a minimum this time around, Mr. Bosch, it would be appreciated.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Apologies.\n\nERIA QUINT: Alongside Jysho\u2019s announcement came one from your organization, Ms. Lorenzo, calling for a boycott of all CTR stores on December 3rd. What is Empire First hoping to accomplish by this gesture?\n\nSUVI LORENZO: First off, I want to be clear, that what we are doing is in no way fueled by xenophobia.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Ha!\n\nERIA QUINT: Please, Mr. Bosch.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: We could care less that Jysho is run by Xi\u2019An. This boycott is about preserving Humanity\u2019s financial security, about stemming the ever-increasing tide of credits leaving Human bank accounts and finding their way into alien pockets, and about making sure that our government is fighting to protect our interests rather than capitulating to some other species\u2019 whims. This is about making sure that the Empire\u2019s leaders are putting the Empire first.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: This boycott is about fear and hate, and little else. It is the same pattern we have seen time and again throughout history, where economic fears are used as a screen for the mistreatment of others. In the 27th century there were the trade embargos in Goss to protect farmers that nearly left the system starved to death, in the 29th century there was the horrific Outsider uprising on Mya, and now, as we finally are making mutually beneficial headway into a lasting interspecies peace, it rears its ugly head again.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: It\u2019s easy for you to just dismiss our economic concerns when your livelihood is directly tied to helping the Xi\u2019An steal credits from hardworking Citizens and Civilians.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Steal? That\u2019s just not how economics work. The credits don\u2019t just magically disappear if a Xi\u2019An earns them. The more money Jysho makes, the better it is for the UEE. Those credits are employing hundreds of Humans, not just as clerks but as haulers and manufacturers. And those products people are buying in CTR stations? A significant amount are currently made in the UEE, and are now, for the first time, being sold through CTR stores in Xi\u2019An systems.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Empire First fully supports selling Human products to the Xi\u2019An and Banu, and even selling their exclusive products in the UEE. Our issue is that when there are already perfectly good Human businesses in place, Human-owned fuel stations for example, why should we force them to compete with xeno-corporations?\n\nERIA QUINT: Which brings us to our next point of discussion. Since the announcement there has -\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Wait, I just want to point out one more thing. Ms. Lorenzo claims that this boycott is about protecting Humanity\u2019s interest, but we\u2019re not just talking alien-owned companies here. How do you justify the boycott targeting Human-owned companies like MISC and Esperia? Hell, what Esperia makes are Tevarin-based products and the Tevarin are part of the UEE. How is boycotting them keeping the Empire First?\n\nSUVI LORENZO: We have come out against boycotting Esperia, but there are other groups who are using the protest as a chance to express some more extreme beliefs that Empire First does not condone.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: That\u2019s some fine company you\u2019re keeping there, Suvi.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: I could say the same thing, traitor.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: And there it is! Just because I work with Xi\u2019An all of a sudden I must hate -\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Do you even think about the families you\u2019re hurting by -\n\nERIA QUINT: Please! I\u2019d like to remind both of you that this is Showdown and not the Plain Truth. A certain amount of decorum is expected from our guests. We are going to take a short break to regain some composure. When we come back, our two guests will offer their differing, and hopefully civil, perspectives about the decision to use Anthony Tanaka Remembrance Day as the backdrop for this protest.\n\nTRANSCRIPT BREAK","de_DE":"SHOWDOWN!\nAutomatische \u00dcbertragung f\u00fcr S&P- und NFSC-Einreichungen\nEP: 57:78 : \" Boykott zum Gedenktag\".\nERIA QUINT: Es ist wieder einmal Zeit f\u00fcr einen weiteren Showdown, die beste Quelle im Spektrum f\u00fcr eine faire und gr\u00fcndliche Analyse der wichtigsten Themen von heute. Ich bin dein Gastgeber, Eria Quint. Vor fast zweihundert Jahren l\u00f6ste der Tod von Anthony Tanaka eine Revolution aus. W\u00e4hrend wir ihn mit der traditionellen Erinnerung von morgen ehren wollen, bereitet sich eine neue Bewegung darauf vor, den 3. Dezember zu nutzen, um die Menschen wieder zum Handeln zu bewegen. Was vor Wochen als Basisbewegung der Humanistischen Gruppe Empire First begann, hat die Erwartungen aller \u00fcbertroffen, da sich Massen von Menschen aus allen Systemen der UEE auf die Teilnahme an einem weit verbreiteten xeno-\u00f6konomischen Boykott und Protest vorbereiten. Suvi Lorenzo, Anf\u00fchrer und Gr\u00fcndungsmitglied von Empire First, ist heute bei uns, um die Beweggr\u00fcnde ihrer Gruppe zu erkl\u00e4ren.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Danke, dass ich kommen durfte.\n\nERIA QUINT: Und mit dem Argument f\u00fcr die Vorteile der finanziellen Zusammenarbeit zwischen Human-Alien und uns f\u00fcr seinen zweiten Auftritt, Carte Bosch, VP of Human Affairs der Jysho Corporation.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Sch\u00f6n, wieder da zu sein.\n\nERIA QUINT: Vor einigen Wochen gab die Jysho Corporation bekannt, dass sie bis Ende des Jahres ihre zehnte CTR-Tankstelle er\u00f6ffnen wird und -\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Die Menschen auf Green sind auf dem Vormarsch, da sich der Ellis-Systemhaus zu einem neuen Flaggschiff der CTR entwickelt. Modernste Technik, alles mit Preisen, von denen man schw\u00f6rt, dass sie aus dem letzten Jahrhundert stammen.\n\nERIA QUINT: Wenn Sie versuchen k\u00f6nnten, die Unterbrechungen und St\u00f6\u00dfe diesmal auf ein Minimum zu beschr\u00e4nken, Herr Bosch, w\u00e4re ich Ihnen dankbar.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Entschuldigung.\n\nERIA QUINT: Neben Jysho's Ank\u00fcndigung kam eine von Ihrer Organisation, Frau Lorenzo, die zu einem Boykott aller CTR-Stores am 3. Dezember aufrief. Was hofft Empire First mit dieser Geste zu erreichen?\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Zun\u00e4chst m\u00f6chte ich klarstellen, dass das, was wir tun, in keiner Weise von Fremdenfeindlichkeit angetrieben wird.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Ha!\n\nERIA QUINT: Bitte, Herr Bosch.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Es k\u00f6nnte uns egal sein, dass Jysho von Xi'An gef\u00fchrt wird. Bei diesem Boykott geht es darum, die finanzielle Sicherheit der Menschheit zu erhalten, die st\u00e4ndig wachsende Flut von Krediten einzud\u00e4mmen, die menschliche Bankkonten verlassen und ihren Weg in au\u00dferirdische Taschen finden, und sicherzustellen, dass unsere Regierung k\u00e4mpft, um unsere Interessen zu sch\u00fctzen, anstatt vor den Launen einer anderen Spezies zu kapitulieren. Hier geht es darum, sicherzustellen, dass die Anf\u00fchrer des Imperiums das Imperium an die erste Stelle setzen.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Bei diesem Boykott geht es um Angst und Hass und wenig anderes. Es ist das gleiche Muster, das wir in der Geschichte immer wieder gesehen haben, wo wirtschaftliche \u00c4ngste als Schirm f\u00fcr die Misshandlung anderer benutzt werden. Im 27. Jahrhundert gab es in Goss die Handelsembargos zum Schutz der Bauern, die das System fast verhungert lie\u00dfen, im 29. Jahrhundert gab es den schrecklichen Au\u00dfenseiteraufstand gegen Mya, und jetzt, da wir endlich einen f\u00fcr beide Seiten vorteilhaften Fortschritt in einen dauerhaften Frieden zwischen den Arten machen, erhebt er wieder seinen h\u00e4sslichen Kopf.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Es ist leicht f\u00fcr dich, unsere wirtschaftlichen Bedenken einfach abzulehnen, wenn dein Lebensunterhalt direkt damit verbunden ist, den Xi'An zu helfen, Kredite von flei\u00dfigen B\u00fcrgern und Zivilisten zu stehlen.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Stehlen? So funktioniert Wirtschaft einfach nicht. Die Credits verschwinden nicht einfach magisch, wenn ein Xi'An sie verdient. Je mehr Geld Jysho verdient, desto besser ist es f\u00fcr die UEE. Diese Kredite besch\u00e4ftigen Hunderte von Menschen, nicht nur als Angestellte, sondern auch als Spediteure und Hersteller. Und diese Produkte, die die Leute in CTR-Stationen kaufen? Ein erheblicher Teil wird derzeit in der UEE hergestellt und wird nun erstmals \u00fcber CTR-Filialen in Xi'An-Systemen verkauft.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Empire First unterst\u00fctzt den Verkauf von Humanprodukten an die Xi'An und Banu und verkauft sogar deren exklusive Produkte in der UEE. Unser Problem ist, dass, wenn es bereits vollkommen gute menschliche Unternehmen gibt, z.B. Tankstellen im Besitz von Menschen, warum sollten wir sie zwingen, mit Xeno-Kapitalgesellschaften zu konkurrieren?\n\nERIA QUINT: Das bringt uns zu unserem n\u00e4chsten Diskussionspunkt. Seit der Ank\u00fcndigung hat es -\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Warte, ich m\u00f6chte nur noch auf eine Sache hinweisen. Frau Lorenzo behauptet, dass es bei diesem Boykott darum geht, die Interessen von Humanity zu sch\u00fctzen, aber wir sprechen hier nicht nur von ausl\u00e4ndischen Unternehmen. Wie rechtfertigen Sie den Boykott gegen Unternehmen in menschlichem Besitz wie MISC und Esperia? Zum Teufel, was Esperia herstellt, sind Tevarin-basierte Produkte und das Tevarin ist Teil der UEE. Wie kann man sie boykottieren, um das Imperium zuerst zu halten?\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Wir haben uns gegen den Boykott von Esperia ausgesprochen, aber es gibt auch andere Gruppen, die den Protest als Chance nutzen, einige extremere \u00dcberzeugungen auszudr\u00fccken, die Empire First nicht billigt.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Das ist eine gute Gesellschaft, die du da hast, Suvi.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Das k\u00f6nnte ich auch sagen, Verr\u00e4ter.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Und da ist es! Nur weil ich pl\u00f6tzlich mit Xi'An arbeite, muss ich hassen -\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Denkst du \u00fcberhaupt an die Familien, von denen du verletzt wirst -\n\nERIA QUINT: Bitte! Ich m\u00f6chte euch beide daran erinnern, dass dies Showdown ist und nicht die reine Wahrheit. Von unseren G\u00e4sten wird eine gewisse Menge an Anstand erwartet. Wir machen eine kurze Pause, um wieder Ruhe zu finden. Wenn wir zur\u00fcckkommen, werden unsere beiden G\u00e4ste ihre unterschiedlichen und hoffentlich zivilen Perspektiven \u00fcber die Entscheidung, den Anthony Tanaka Gedenktag als Hintergrund f\u00fcr diesen Protest zu nutzen, darlegen.\n\nTRANSKRIPTUMBRUCH","zh_CN":"SHOWDOWN!\nAuto-Transcript for S&P and NFSC Submission\nEP: 57:78 : \u201cRemembrance Day Boycott\u201d\nERIA QUINT: It is time once again for another Showdown, the best source on the spectrum for fair and in-depth analysis of today\u2019s most important issues. I\u2019m your host, Eria Quint. It was close to two hundred years ago that the death of Anthony Tanaka sparked a revolution. As we look to honor him with tomorrow\u2019s traditional remembrance, a new movement prepares to use December 3rd to once again ignite people into action. What started weeks ago as a grass roots movement by the Humanist group Empire First has swelled beyond anyone\u2019s expectations as masses of people from every system in the UEE prepare to participate in a widespread xeno-economical boycott and protest. With us today to explain her group\u2019s motivations is Suvi Lorenzo, leader and founding member of Empire First.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Thanks for having me.\n\nERIA QUINT: And arguing for the benefits of Human-Alien financial cooperation, joining us for his second appearance, Carte Bosch, VP of Human Affairs for Jysho Corporation.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Glad to be back.\n\nERIA QUINT: A few weeks ago, Jysho Corporation announced that they would be opening their tenth CTR fuel station by the end of the year and \u2013\n\nCARTE BOSCH: The people on Green are in for a treat as the Ellis system store is shaping up to be CTR\u2019s new flagship. State of the art everything with prices you\u2019d swear were from last century.\n\nERIA QUINT: If you could try to keep the interruptions and plugs to a minimum this time around, Mr. Bosch, it would be appreciated.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Apologies.\n\nERIA QUINT: Alongside Jysho\u2019s announcement came one from your organization, Ms. Lorenzo, calling for a boycott of all CTR stores on December 3rd. What is Empire First hoping to accomplish by this gesture?\n\nSUVI LORENZO: First off, I want to be clear, that what we are doing is in no way fueled by xenophobia.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Ha!\n\nERIA QUINT: Please, Mr. Bosch.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: We could care less that Jysho is run by Xi\u2019An. This boycott is about preserving Humanity\u2019s financial security, about stemming the ever-increasing tide of credits leaving Human bank accounts and finding their way into alien pockets, and about making sure that our government is fighting to protect our interests rather than capitulating to some other species\u2019 whims. This is about making sure that the Empire\u2019s leaders are putting the Empire first.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: This boycott is about fear and hate, and little else. It is the same pattern we have seen time and again throughout history, where economic fears are used as a screen for the mistreatment of others. In the 27th century there were the trade embargos in Goss to protect farmers that nearly left the system starved to death, in the 29th century there was the horrific Outsider uprising on Mya, and now, as we finally are making mutually beneficial headway into a lasting interspecies peace, it rears its ugly head again.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: It\u2019s easy for you to just dismiss our economic concerns when your livelihood is directly tied to helping the Xi\u2019An steal credits from hardworking Citizens and Civilians.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Steal? That\u2019s just not how economics work. The credits don\u2019t just magically disappear if a Xi\u2019An earns them. The more money Jysho makes, the better it is for the UEE. Those credits are employing hundreds of Humans, not just as clerks but as haulers and manufacturers. And those products people are buying in CTR stations? A significant amount are currently made in the UEE, and are now, for the first time, being sold through CTR stores in Xi\u2019An systems.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Empire First fully supports selling Human products to the Xi\u2019An and Banu, and even selling their exclusive products in the UEE. Our issue is that when there are already perfectly good Human businesses in place, Human-owned fuel stations for example, why should we force them to compete with xeno-corporations?\n\nERIA QUINT: Which brings us to our next point of discussion. Since the announcement there has -\n\nCARTE BOSCH: Wait, I just want to point out one more thing. Ms. Lorenzo claims that this boycott is about protecting Humanity\u2019s interest, but we\u2019re not just talking alien-owned companies here. How do you justify the boycott targeting Human-owned companies like MISC and Esperia? Hell, what Esperia makes are Tevarin-based products and the Tevarin are part of the UEE. How is boycotting them keeping the Empire First?\n\nSUVI LORENZO: We have come out against boycotting Esperia, but there are other groups who are using the protest as a chance to express some more extreme beliefs that Empire First does not condone.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: That\u2019s some fine company you\u2019re keeping there, Suvi.\n\nSUVI LORENZO: I could say the same thing, traitor.\n\nCARTE BOSCH: And there it is! Just because I work with Xi\u2019An all of a sudden I must hate -\n\nSUVI LORENZO: Do you even think about the families you\u2019re hurting by -\n\nERIA QUINT: Please! I\u2019d like to remind both of you that this is Showdown and not the Plain Truth. A certain amount of decorum is expected from our guests. We are going to take a short break to regain some composure. When we come back, our two guests will offer their differing, and hopefully civil, perspectives about the decision to use Anthony Tanaka Remembrance Day as the backdrop for this protest.\n\nTRANSCRIPT BREAK"},"links_count":0,"comment_count":130,"created_at":"2014-12-03T00:00:00+00:00","created_at_human":"11 years ago"},"meta":{"processed_at":"2026-05-08 08:30:46","valid_relations":["images","links"],"prev_id":14341,"next_id":14343}}