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My name is Eria Quint. It\u2019s been three months since Admiral Bishop addressed the UEE Senate shortly after his remarkable victory in the defense of Vega II. His speech galvanized the public throughout the Empire. In it, he called for a plan to reclaim systems lost to the Vanduul. Last week, the admiral presented his strategy to the Imperator and High Command for review. While exact details are unknown, sources indicate that military action is not only possible, but likely.\n\nMy guests today hold two very different points of view on the road to this point and where the Empire will go from here. I would like to welcome Arthur Warro, an economic strategist and architect of the Polo Initiative, who\u2019s joining us via spectrum.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Thank you for having me, Eria.\n\nERIA QUINT: And from the UEE Navy, Admiral Cedric Cochran.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Lovely to see you.\n\nERIA QUINT: To pose the question to you both, is this truly the time?\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Well, Eria, since the latest attack, border systems have reported a significant decrease in raids, so it seems that the victory at Vega II was a decisive blow against what had been a previously very determined Vanduul threat. While the Vanduul don\u2019t seem to have any kind of cohesive organization outside of their individual clans, this notable decrease indicates, to me at least, that the destruction of the kingship has sent a message to the other clans. So it feels like an ideal chance to capitalize on the momentum.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Unfortunately, we are not in a financial position to justify a war, especially one of the magnitude and ambiguous timeline that a prolonged active conflict with the Vanduul will undoubtedly require.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Mr. Warro, the people of the Empire want justice for the lives lost on Vega II.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: And I respect that, Admiral.\n\nERIA QUINT: Admiral Bishop, seen here touring the devastation of New Corvo, has made it abundantly clear that he believes the conflict with the Vanduul represents a state of supreme emergency: an us-or-them situation, and that was why a state of war was already in effect. Because of the gravity of this operation and what was at stake, he has requested to be at the front line of this offensive.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Admiral Bishop is an exemplary officer, no one is denying that, but say he defeats the Vanduul, how hollow would that victory be if the Empire he saves is in complete financial collapse?\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: As you know, Admiral Bishop is a close personal friend of mine. We speak often, especially when he wants help crafting his battle plans. I can\u2019t think of anyone more qualified to lead this historic charge.\n\nERIA QUINT: Insiders claim that he\u2019s attempting to resurrect plans to construct a new class of capital ship.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Projects like that are what got us here in the first place.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: I agree.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: You do?\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Certainly. Before Vega II, the Empire lacked focus. I\u2019m not personally familiar with this project you mentioned, Eria, but I can assume that it was a probably more of an engineering challenge than anything else. We didn\u2019t need it. Someone started building it because they could. Now, things have changed. If Admiral Bishop has set his sights on this project, then he sees value in it. Now we can spend the credits because it\u2019s something we will use.\n\nERIA QUINT: We need to take a quick break. When we come back, we\u2019ll take our RapidFire out to the streets to hear from you about the latest developments with the looming Vanduul conflict, then final questions for our guests. Stay tuned.\n\n[ Musical Outro ]\n\n[ Musical Intro ]\n\nERIA QUINT: We\u2019re reloaded for another round of Showdown, but first, we asked the public how they felt about the increased momentum towards military action in the Vanduul systems. Here\u2019s what you had to say. This is Rapidfire.\n\nMARSHALL JAED (Angeli, Croshaw): I\u2019m all for it. It\u2019s been making me sick how the puppets in office just seem to want to roll over and hope they\u2019ll just go away. \u2019Duul have been killing us and taking what they want for hundreds of years. It\u2019s about time we started hitting them back.\n\nHENNA KASEY (Prime, Terra): I know everybody\u2019s getting all excited to jump on the \u2018let\u2019s blow stuff up\u2019 rail, but anyone stop to think that we\u2019re going to be playing right into their hands? I mean, they want to fight. That\u2019s what they do. My mom had a great quote when I said I was moving to Prime, she said \u201cdon\u2019t go looking for crazy, because then you gotta deal with crazy.\u201d\n\nVITIENNE CAVANAUGH (Jata, Cestulus): Whatever it takes. Navy shot down my application, but I don\u2019t care. I\u2019m saving up for a fighter and will go out there on my own. Like I said, whatever it takes.\n\nERIA QUINT: You can find more RapidFire clips in our archive. Welcome back. I\u2019m your host, Eria Quint, here with our guests: Admiral Cedric Cochran of the UEE Navy and Arthur Warro, economic consultant. The Orion system was the first Human-controlled system to fall to the Vanduul. Lost in 2712, the Battle of Orion signified the first large-scale military defeat the Messers suffered. Tiber, Virgil and Caliban would fall afterwards. Since it\u2019s been almost 250 years since the UEE has occupied these systems, even if Bishop is successful in recapturing these systems, is there still anything there worth saving?\n\nARTHUR WARRO: I have always heard that there are still settlers living in those systems, so in a perfect universe, yes, I think that means they\u2019re worth saving, but life is too complicated for simple choices. Our way of life is not sustainable, the last three decades have proven that. Unless we\u2019re willing to make sacrifices, we won\u2019t survive\u2026 and that has nothing to do with the Vanduul.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: I\u2019ve served on the Vanduul front several times in my career. I\u2019ve seen horrible things, but I was able to steel myself against those horrors because it was \u2018over there.\u2019 That was how I justified it. How I was able to move past it. As I said earlier, I echo Mr. Warro\u2019s concerns about flagrant spending, but as I watched footage of the ruins of Estilia, the horrors I saw weren\u2019t \u2018over there\u2019 anymore. I don\u2019t know if we can put a price tag on saving our Citizens\u2019 lives.\n\nERIA QUINT: Clearly plenty to think about in this incredibly complex issue. I\u2019m certain we\u2019ll be discussing it a lot more in the coming weeks. In the meantime, I\u2019d like to thank my guests for being here today.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Thank you, Eria, Arthur.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Thank you.\n\nERIA QUINT: We\u2019ll take another quick break and when we come back, commercial starliners have been steadily increasing their fares over the past few years. With Meridian Transit\u2019s latest press release outlining individual charges for their entertainment system, from the uproar that\u2019s been burning up the Spectrum, it seems the public\u2019s had enough. We\u2019ll load up for another Showdown after these messages.\n\nTRANSMISSION BREAK","de_DE":"SHOWDOWN!\nAutomatische \u00dcbertragung f\u00fcr S&P- und NFSC-Einreichungen\n\nEP:60:02 : \"Der Marsch zu....\"\nERIA QUINT: Hallo und willkommen zu einer weiteren Episode von Showdown, in der wir die Themen des Tages aus unterschiedlichen Perspektiven betrachten. Mein Name ist Eria Quint. Es ist drei Monate her, seit Admiral Bishop kurz nach seinem bemerkenswerten Sieg bei der Verteidigung von Vega II vor dem UEE-Senat sprach. Seine Rede begeisterte die \u00d6ffentlichkeit im ganzen Reich. Darin forderte er einen Plan zur R\u00fcckgewinnung der an die Vanduul verlorenen Systeme. Letzte Woche stellte der Admiral seine Strategie dem Imperator und dem Oberkommando zur \u00dcberpr\u00fcfung vor. W\u00e4hrend genaue Details unbekannt sind, deuten Quellen darauf hin, dass milit\u00e4rische Aktionen nicht nur m\u00f6glich, sondern wahrscheinlich sind.\n\nMeine heutigen G\u00e4ste haben zwei sehr unterschiedliche Standpunkte auf dem Weg zu diesem Punkt und wohin das Imperium von hier aus gehen wird. Ich begr\u00fc\u00dfe Arthur Warro, einen Wirtschaftsstrategen und Architekten der Polo-Initiative, der \u00fcber das Spektrum zu uns kommt.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Danke, dass du mich hast, Eria.\n\nERIA QUINT: Und von der UEE Navy, Admiral Cedric Cochran.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Sch\u00f6n, dich zu sehen.\n\nERIA QUINT: Um Ihnen beiden die Frage zu stellen: Ist das wirklich der richtige Zeitpunkt?\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Nun, Eria, seit dem letzten Angriff haben die Grenzsysteme einen signifikanten R\u00fcckgang der Angriffe gemeldet, so dass es scheint, dass der Sieg bei Vega II ein entscheidender Schlag gegen eine zuvor sehr bestimmte Vanduul-Drohung war. W\u00e4hrend die Vanduul scheinbar keine zusammenh\u00e4ngende Organisation au\u00dferhalb ihrer einzelnen Clans haben, deutet dieser bemerkenswerte R\u00fcckgang zumindest f\u00fcr mich darauf hin, dass die Zerst\u00f6rung des K\u00f6nigtums eine Botschaft an die anderen Clans gesendet hat. Es f\u00fchlt sich also wie eine ideale Chance an, von der Dynamik zu profitieren.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Leider sind wir nicht in der finanziellen Lage, einen Krieg zu rechtfertigen, insbesondere nicht in der Gr\u00f6\u00dfenordnung und dem zweideutigen Zeitplan, den ein l\u00e4ngerer aktiver Konflikt mit der Vanduul zweifellos erfordern wird.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Herr Warro, die Menschen des Imperiums wollen Gerechtigkeit f\u00fcr die auf Vega II verlorenen Leben.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Und ich respektiere das, Admiral.\n\nERIA QUINT: Admiral Bishop, der hier gesehen wurde, um die Verw\u00fcstung von New Corvo zu erleben, hat unmissverst\u00e4ndlich deutlich gemacht, dass er glaubt, dass der Konflikt mit der Vanduul einen Zustand des h\u00f6chsten Notstands darstellt: eine us-or-them-Situation, und deshalb war bereits ein Kriegszustand in Kraft. Aufgrund der Schwere dieser Operation und der damit verbundenen Herausforderungen hat er darum gebeten, an vorderster Front dieser Offensive zu stehen.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Admiral Bishop ist ein vorbildlicher Offizier, niemand leugnet das, aber sagen Sie, dass er die Vanduul besiegt, wie hohl w\u00e4re dieser Sieg, wenn das Imperium, das er rettet, in v\u00f6lligem finanziellen Zusammenbruch w\u00e4re?\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Wie Sie wissen, ist Admiral Bishop ein enger pers\u00f6nlicher Freund von mir. Wir sprechen oft, besonders wenn er bei der Erstellung seiner Kampfpl\u00e4ne helfen will. Ich kann mir niemanden vorstellen, der qualifizierter ist, diese historische Ladung zu leiten.\n\nERIA QUINT: Insider behaupten, dass er versucht, Pl\u00e4ne zum Bau einer neuen Klasse von Gro\u00dfschiffen wieder aufleben zu lassen.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Projekte wie diese haben uns \u00fcberhaupt erst hierher gebracht.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Ich stimme zu.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Wirklich?\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Sicherlich. Vor Vega II fehlte dem Imperium der Fokus. Ich bin pers\u00f6nlich nicht mit diesem Projekt vertraut, das Sie erw\u00e4hnt haben, Eria, aber ich kann davon ausgehen, dass es wahrscheinlich eher eine technische Herausforderung als alles andere war. Wir brauchten es nicht. Jemand begann mit dem Bau, weil er es konnte. Jetzt haben sich die Dinge ge\u00e4ndert. Wenn Admiral Bishop dieses Projekt ins Visier genommen hat, dann sieht er den Wert darin. Jetzt k\u00f6nnen wir die Credits ausgeben, weil es etwas ist, das wir verwenden werden.\n\nERIA QUINT: Wir m\u00fcssen eine kurze Pause einlegen. Wenn wir zur\u00fcckkommen, nehmen wir unser RapidFire mit auf die Stra\u00dfe, um von Ihnen \u00fcber die neuesten Entwicklungen im Zusammenhang mit dem sich abzeichnenden Vanduul-Konflikt zu h\u00f6ren, dann die letzten Fragen an unsere G\u00e4ste. Bleiben Sie dran.\n\n[ Musikalische Outro []\n\n[ Musikalisches Intro []\n\nERIA QUINT: Wir sind f\u00fcr eine weitere Runde des Showdown wieder aufgeladen, aber zuerst haben wir die \u00d6ffentlichkeit gefragt, wie sie \u00fcber die zunehmende Dynamik in Richtung milit\u00e4rischer Aktionen in den Vanduul-Systemen denkt. Hier ist, was du zu sagen hattest. Hier ist Rapidfire.\n\nMARSHALL JAED (Angeli, Croshaw): Ich bin ganz und gar daf\u00fcr. Es macht mich krank, dass die Marionetten im B\u00fcro sich einfach umdrehen wollen und hoffen, dass sie einfach weggehen. Duul haben uns get\u00f6tet und sich seit Jahrhunderten genommen, was sie wollen. Es wird Zeit, dass wir anfangen, sie zur\u00fcckzuschlagen.\n\nHENNA KASEY (Prime, Terra): Ich wei\u00df, dass jeder aufgeregt ist, auf die \"Lass uns Sachen hochjagen\"-Rail zu springen, aber jeder h\u00f6rt auf zu denken, dass wir ihnen direkt in die H\u00e4nde spielen werden? Ich meine, sie wollen k\u00e4mpfen. Das ist es, was sie tun. Meine Mutter hatte ein gro\u00dfartiges Zitat, als ich sagte, dass ich in die Prime gehe, sie sagte: \"Such nicht nach Verr\u00fcckten, denn dann musst du dich um Verr\u00fcckte k\u00fcmmern.\"\n\nVITIENNE CAVANAUGH (Jata, Cestulus): Was auch immer n\u00f6tig ist. Die Navy hat meine Bewerbung abgelehnt, aber das ist mir egal. Ich spare f\u00fcr einen K\u00e4mpfer und werde alleine da rausgehen. Wie ich schon sagte, alles, was n\u00f6tig ist.\n\nERIA QUINT: Weitere RapidFire-Clips finden Sie in unserem Archiv. Willkommen zur\u00fcck. Ich bin Ihre Gastgeberin, Eria Quint, hier bei unseren G\u00e4sten: Admiral Cedric Cochran von der UEE Navy und Arthur Warro, Wirtschaftsberater. Das Orion-System war das erste vom Menschen kontrollierte System, das auf die Vanduul fiel. Verloren 2712, bedeutete die Schlacht von Orion die erste gro\u00dfe milit\u00e4rische Niederlage, die die Messers erlitten. Tiber, Virgil und Caliban w\u00fcrden danach fallen. Da es fast 250 Jahre her ist, seit die UEE diese Systeme besetzt hat, gibt es, auch wenn es Bishop gelingt, diese Systeme wieder einzunehmen, noch etwas, das es wert ist, gerettet zu werden?\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Ich habe immer geh\u00f6rt, dass es immer noch Siedler gibt, die in diesen Systemen leben, also in einem perfekten Universum, ja, ich denke, das bedeutet, dass es sich lohnt, sie zu retten, aber das Leben ist zu kompliziert f\u00fcr einfache Entscheidungen. Unsere Lebensweise ist nicht nachhaltig, das haben die letzten drei Jahrzehnte bewiesen. Wenn wir nicht bereit sind, Opfer zu bringen, werden wir nicht \u00fcberleben.... und das hat nichts mit den Vanduul zu tun.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Ich habe in meiner Karriere mehrmals an der Vanduul-Front gedient. Ich habe schreckliche Dinge gesehen, aber ich konnte mich gegen diese Schrecken wehren, weil es \"da dr\u00fcben\" war. So habe ich es begr\u00fcndet. Wie konnte ich daran vorbeikommen? Wie ich bereits sagte, schlie\u00dfe ich mich den Bedenken von Herrn Warro \u00fcber flagrante Ausgaben an, aber als ich Aufnahmen von den Ruinen von Estilia sah, waren die Schrecken, die ich sah, nicht mehr \"da dr\u00fcben\". Ich wei\u00df nicht, ob wir ein Preisschild anbringen k\u00f6nnen, um das Leben unserer B\u00fcrger zu retten.\n\nERIA QUINT: Offensichtlich gibt es in diesem unglaublich komplexen Thema viel zu bedenken. Ich bin sicher, dass wir in den n\u00e4chsten Wochen noch viel mehr dar\u00fcber diskutieren werden. In der Zwischenzeit m\u00f6chte ich mich bei meinen G\u00e4sten bedanken, dass sie heute hier sind.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Danke, Eria, Arthur.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Danke.\n\nERIA QUINT: Wir machen noch eine kurze Pause und wenn wir zur\u00fcckkommen, haben die kommerziellen Starliner ihre Tarife in den letzten Jahren stetig erh\u00f6ht. Mit der neuesten Pressemitteilung von Meridian Transit, die individuelle Geb\u00fchren f\u00fcr ihr Unterhaltungssystem umrei\u00dft, vom Aufruhr, der das Spectrum verbrannt hat, scheint es, dass die \u00d6ffentlichkeit genug hatte. Wir werden nach diesen Nachrichten zu einem weiteren Showdown aufbrechen.\n\nGETRIEBEUNTERBRECHUNG","zh_CN":"SHOWDOWN!\nAuto-Transcript for S&P and NFSC Submission\n\nEP:60:02 : \u201cThe March To \u2026\u201d\nERIA QUINT: Hello and welcome to another episode of Showdown, where we examine the issues of the day as seen through opposing perspectives. My name is Eria Quint. It\u2019s been three months since Admiral Bishop addressed the UEE Senate shortly after his remarkable victory in the defense of Vega II. His speech galvanized the public throughout the Empire. In it, he called for a plan to reclaim systems lost to the Vanduul. Last week, the admiral presented his strategy to the Imperator and High Command for review. While exact details are unknown, sources indicate that military action is not only possible, but likely.\n\nMy guests today hold two very different points of view on the road to this point and where the Empire will go from here. I would like to welcome Arthur Warro, an economic strategist and architect of the Polo Initiative, who\u2019s joining us via spectrum.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Thank you for having me, Eria.\n\nERIA QUINT: And from the UEE Navy, Admiral Cedric Cochran.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Lovely to see you.\n\nERIA QUINT: To pose the question to you both, is this truly the time?\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Well, Eria, since the latest attack, border systems have reported a significant decrease in raids, so it seems that the victory at Vega II was a decisive blow against what had been a previously very determined Vanduul threat. While the Vanduul don\u2019t seem to have any kind of cohesive organization outside of their individual clans, this notable decrease indicates, to me at least, that the destruction of the kingship has sent a message to the other clans. So it feels like an ideal chance to capitalize on the momentum.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Unfortunately, we are not in a financial position to justify a war, especially one of the magnitude and ambiguous timeline that a prolonged active conflict with the Vanduul will undoubtedly require.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Mr. Warro, the people of the Empire want justice for the lives lost on Vega II.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: And I respect that, Admiral.\n\nERIA QUINT: Admiral Bishop, seen here touring the devastation of New Corvo, has made it abundantly clear that he believes the conflict with the Vanduul represents a state of supreme emergency: an us-or-them situation, and that was why a state of war was already in effect. Because of the gravity of this operation and what was at stake, he has requested to be at the front line of this offensive.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Admiral Bishop is an exemplary officer, no one is denying that, but say he defeats the Vanduul, how hollow would that victory be if the Empire he saves is in complete financial collapse?\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: As you know, Admiral Bishop is a close personal friend of mine. We speak often, especially when he wants help crafting his battle plans. I can\u2019t think of anyone more qualified to lead this historic charge.\n\nERIA QUINT: Insiders claim that he\u2019s attempting to resurrect plans to construct a new class of capital ship.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Projects like that are what got us here in the first place.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: I agree.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: You do?\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Certainly. Before Vega II, the Empire lacked focus. I\u2019m not personally familiar with this project you mentioned, Eria, but I can assume that it was a probably more of an engineering challenge than anything else. We didn\u2019t need it. Someone started building it because they could. Now, things have changed. If Admiral Bishop has set his sights on this project, then he sees value in it. Now we can spend the credits because it\u2019s something we will use.\n\nERIA QUINT: We need to take a quick break. When we come back, we\u2019ll take our RapidFire out to the streets to hear from you about the latest developments with the looming Vanduul conflict, then final questions for our guests. Stay tuned.\n\n[ Musical Outro ]\n\n[ Musical Intro ]\n\nERIA QUINT: We\u2019re reloaded for another round of Showdown, but first, we asked the public how they felt about the increased momentum towards military action in the Vanduul systems. Here\u2019s what you had to say. This is Rapidfire.\n\nMARSHALL JAED (Angeli, Croshaw): I\u2019m all for it. It\u2019s been making me sick how the puppets in office just seem to want to roll over and hope they\u2019ll just go away. \u2019Duul have been killing us and taking what they want for hundreds of years. It\u2019s about time we started hitting them back.\n\nHENNA KASEY (Prime, Terra): I know everybody\u2019s getting all excited to jump on the \u2018let\u2019s blow stuff up\u2019 rail, but anyone stop to think that we\u2019re going to be playing right into their hands? I mean, they want to fight. That\u2019s what they do. My mom had a great quote when I said I was moving to Prime, she said \u201cdon\u2019t go looking for crazy, because then you gotta deal with crazy.\u201d\n\nVITIENNE CAVANAUGH (Jata, Cestulus): Whatever it takes. Navy shot down my application, but I don\u2019t care. I\u2019m saving up for a fighter and will go out there on my own. Like I said, whatever it takes.\n\nERIA QUINT: You can find more RapidFire clips in our archive. Welcome back. I\u2019m your host, Eria Quint, here with our guests: Admiral Cedric Cochran of the UEE Navy and Arthur Warro, economic consultant. The Orion system was the first Human-controlled system to fall to the Vanduul. Lost in 2712, the Battle of Orion signified the first large-scale military defeat the Messers suffered. Tiber, Virgil and Caliban would fall afterwards. Since it\u2019s been almost 250 years since the UEE has occupied these systems, even if Bishop is successful in recapturing these systems, is there still anything there worth saving?\n\nARTHUR WARRO: I have always heard that there are still settlers living in those systems, so in a perfect universe, yes, I think that means they\u2019re worth saving, but life is too complicated for simple choices. Our way of life is not sustainable, the last three decades have proven that. Unless we\u2019re willing to make sacrifices, we won\u2019t survive\u2026 and that has nothing to do with the Vanduul.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: I\u2019ve served on the Vanduul front several times in my career. I\u2019ve seen horrible things, but I was able to steel myself against those horrors because it was \u2018over there.\u2019 That was how I justified it. How I was able to move past it. As I said earlier, I echo Mr. Warro\u2019s concerns about flagrant spending, but as I watched footage of the ruins of Estilia, the horrors I saw weren\u2019t \u2018over there\u2019 anymore. I don\u2019t know if we can put a price tag on saving our Citizens\u2019 lives.\n\nERIA QUINT: Clearly plenty to think about in this incredibly complex issue. I\u2019m certain we\u2019ll be discussing it a lot more in the coming weeks. In the meantime, I\u2019d like to thank my guests for being here today.\n\nADMIRAL CEDRIC COCHRAN: Thank you, Eria, Arthur.\n\nARTHUR WARRO: Thank you.\n\nERIA QUINT: We\u2019ll take another quick break and when we come back, commercial starliners have been steadily increasing their fares over the past few years. With Meridian Transit\u2019s latest press release outlining individual charges for their entertainment system, from the uproar that\u2019s been burning up the Spectrum, it seems the public\u2019s had enough. We\u2019ll load up for another Showdown after these messages.\n\nTRANSMISSION BREAK"},"links_count":0,"comment_count":95,"created_at":"2016-02-03T00:00:00+00:00","created_at_human":"10 years ago"},"meta":{"processed_at":"2026-05-07 23:11:04","valid_relations":["images","links"],"prev_id":15181,"next_id":15185}}