Showdown! "Remembrance Day Boycott"
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EP: 57:78 : “Remembrance Day Boycott”
ERIA QUINT: It is time once again for another Showdown, the best source on the spectrum for fair and in-depth analysis of today’s most important issues. I’m your host, Eria Quint. It was close to two hundred years ago that the death of Anthony Tanaka sparked a revolution. As we look to honor him with tomorrow’s traditional remembrance, a new movement prepares to use December 3rd to once again ignite people into action. What started weeks ago as a grass roots movement by the Humanist group Empire First has swelled beyond anyone’s expectations as masses of people from every system in the UEE prepare to participate in a widespread xeno-economical boycott and protest. With us today to explain her group’s motivations is Suvi Lorenzo, leader and founding member of Empire First.
SUVI LORENZO: Thanks for having me.
ERIA QUINT: And arguing for the benefits of Human-Alien financial cooperation, joining us for his second appearance, Carte Bosch, VP of Human Affairs for Jysho Corporation.
CARTE BOSCH: Glad to be back.
ERIA QUINT: A few weeks ago, Jysho Corporation announced that they would be opening their tenth CTR fuel station by the end of the year and –
CARTE BOSCH: The people on Green are in for a treat as the Ellis system store is shaping up to be CTR’s new flagship. State of the art everything with prices you’d swear were from last century.
ERIA QUINT: If you could try to keep the interruptions and plugs to a minimum this time around, Mr. Bosch, it would be appreciated.
CARTE BOSCH: Apologies.
ERIA QUINT: Alongside Jysho’s announcement came one from your organization, Ms. Lorenzo, calling for a boycott of all CTR stores on December 3rd. What is Empire First hoping to accomplish by this gesture?
SUVI LORENZO: First off, I want to be clear, that what we are doing is in no way fueled by xenophobia.
CARTE BOSCH: Ha!
ERIA QUINT: Please, Mr. Bosch.
SUVI LORENZO: We could care less that Jysho is run by Xi’An. This boycott is about preserving Humanity’s financial security, about stemming the ever-increasing tide of credits leaving Human bank accounts and finding their way into alien pockets, and about making sure that our government is fighting to protect our interests rather than capitulating to some other species’ whims. This is about making sure that the Empire’s leaders are putting the Empire first.
CARTE BOSCH: This boycott is about fear and hate, and little else. It is the same pattern we have seen time and again throughout history, where economic fears are used as a screen for the mistreatment of others. In the 27th century there were the trade embargos in Goss to protect farmers that nearly left the system starved to death, in the 29th century there was the horrific Outsider uprising on Mya, and now, as we finally are making mutually beneficial headway into a lasting interspecies peace, it rears its ugly head again.
SUVI LORENZO: It’s easy for you to just dismiss our economic concerns when your livelihood is directly tied to helping the Xi’An steal credits from hardworking Citizens and Civilians.
CARTE BOSCH: Steal? That’s just not how economics work. The credits don’t just magically disappear if a Xi’An earns them. The more money Jysho makes, the better it is for the UEE. Those credits are employing hundreds of Humans, not just as clerks but as haulers and manufacturers. And those products people are buying in CTR stations? A significant amount are currently made in the UEE, and are now, for the first time, being sold through CTR stores in Xi’An systems.
SUVI LORENZO: Empire First fully supports selling Human products to the Xi’An and Banu, and even selling their exclusive products in the UEE. Our issue is that when there are already perfectly good Human businesses in place, Human-owned fuel stations for example, why should we force them to compete with xeno-corporations?
ERIA QUINT: Which brings us to our next point of discussion. Since the announcement there has -
CARTE BOSCH: Wait, I just want to point out one more thing. Ms. Lorenzo claims that this boycott is about protecting Humanity’s interest, but we’re not just talking alien-owned companies here. How do you justify the boycott targeting Human-owned companies like MISC and Esperia? Hell, what Esperia makes are Tevarin-based products and the Tevarin are part of the UEE. How is boycotting them keeping the Empire First?
SUVI LORENZO: We have come out against boycotting Esperia, but there are other groups who are using the protest as a chance to express some more extreme beliefs that Empire First does not condone.
CARTE BOSCH: That’s some fine company you’re keeping there, Suvi.
SUVI LORENZO: I could say the same thing, traitor.
CARTE BOSCH: And there it is! Just because I work with Xi’An all of a sudden I must hate -
SUVI LORENZO: Do you even think about the families you’re hurting by -
ERIA QUINT: Please! I’d like to remind both of you that this is Showdown and not the Plain Truth. A certain amount of decorum is expected from our guests. We are going to take a short break to regain some composure. When we come back, our two guests will offer their differing, and hopefully civil, perspectives about the decision to use Anthony Tanaka Remembrance Day as the backdrop for this protest.
TRANSCRIPT BREAK
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EP: 57:78 : “Remembrance Day Boycott”
ERIA QUINT: It is time once again for another Showdown, the best source on the spectrum for fair and in-depth analysis of today’s most important issues. I’m your host, Eria Quint. It was close to two hundred years ago that the death of Anthony Tanaka sparked a revolution. As we look to honor him with tomorrow’s traditional remembrance, a new movement prepares to use December 3rd to once again ignite people into action. What started weeks ago as a grass roots movement by the Humanist group Empire First has swelled beyond anyone’s expectations as masses of people from every system in the UEE prepare to participate in a widespread xeno-economical boycott and protest. With us today to explain her group’s motivations is Suvi Lorenzo, leader and founding member of Empire First.
SUVI LORENZO: Thanks for having me.
ERIA QUINT: And arguing for the benefits of Human-Alien financial cooperation, joining us for his second appearance, Carte Bosch, VP of Human Affairs for Jysho Corporation.
CARTE BOSCH: Glad to be back.
ERIA QUINT: A few weeks ago, Jysho Corporation announced that they would be opening their tenth CTR fuel station by the end of the year and –
CARTE BOSCH: The people on Green are in for a treat as the Ellis system store is shaping up to be CTR’s new flagship. State of the art everything with prices you’d swear were from last century.
ERIA QUINT: If you could try to keep the interruptions and plugs to a minimum this time around, Mr. Bosch, it would be appreciated.
CARTE BOSCH: Apologies.
ERIA QUINT: Alongside Jysho’s announcement came one from your organization, Ms. Lorenzo, calling for a boycott of all CTR stores on December 3rd. What is Empire First hoping to accomplish by this gesture?
SUVI LORENZO: First off, I want to be clear, that what we are doing is in no way fueled by xenophobia.
CARTE BOSCH: Ha!
ERIA QUINT: Please, Mr. Bosch.
SUVI LORENZO: We could care less that Jysho is run by Xi’An. This boycott is about preserving Humanity’s financial security, about stemming the ever-increasing tide of credits leaving Human bank accounts and finding their way into alien pockets, and about making sure that our government is fighting to protect our interests rather than capitulating to some other species’ whims. This is about making sure that the Empire’s leaders are putting the Empire first.
CARTE BOSCH: This boycott is about fear and hate, and little else. It is the same pattern we have seen time and again throughout history, where economic fears are used as a screen for the mistreatment of others. In the 27th century there were the trade embargos in Goss to protect farmers that nearly left the system starved to death, in the 29th century there was the horrific Outsider uprising on Mya, and now, as we finally are making mutually beneficial headway into a lasting interspecies peace, it rears its ugly head again.
SUVI LORENZO: It’s easy for you to just dismiss our economic concerns when your livelihood is directly tied to helping the Xi’An steal credits from hardworking Citizens and Civilians.
CARTE BOSCH: Steal? That’s just not how economics work. The credits don’t just magically disappear if a Xi’An earns them. The more money Jysho makes, the better it is for the UEE. Those credits are employing hundreds of Humans, not just as clerks but as haulers and manufacturers. And those products people are buying in CTR stations? A significant amount are currently made in the UEE, and are now, for the first time, being sold through CTR stores in Xi’An systems.
SUVI LORENZO: Empire First fully supports selling Human products to the Xi’An and Banu, and even selling their exclusive products in the UEE. Our issue is that when there are already perfectly good Human businesses in place, Human-owned fuel stations for example, why should we force them to compete with xeno-corporations?
ERIA QUINT: Which brings us to our next point of discussion. Since the announcement there has -
CARTE BOSCH: Wait, I just want to point out one more thing. Ms. Lorenzo claims that this boycott is about protecting Humanity’s interest, but we’re not just talking alien-owned companies here. How do you justify the boycott targeting Human-owned companies like MISC and Esperia? Hell, what Esperia makes are Tevarin-based products and the Tevarin are part of the UEE. How is boycotting them keeping the Empire First?
SUVI LORENZO: We have come out against boycotting Esperia, but there are other groups who are using the protest as a chance to express some more extreme beliefs that Empire First does not condone.
CARTE BOSCH: That’s some fine company you’re keeping there, Suvi.
SUVI LORENZO: I could say the same thing, traitor.
CARTE BOSCH: And there it is! Just because I work with Xi’An all of a sudden I must hate -
SUVI LORENZO: Do you even think about the families you’re hurting by -
ERIA QUINT: Please! I’d like to remind both of you that this is Showdown and not the Plain Truth. A certain amount of decorum is expected from our guests. We are going to take a short break to regain some composure. When we come back, our two guests will offer their differing, and hopefully civil, perspectives about the decision to use Anthony Tanaka Remembrance Day as the backdrop for this protest.
TRANSCRIPT BREAK
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EP: 57:78 : " Boykott zum Gedenktag".
ERIA QUINT: Es ist wieder einmal Zeit für einen weiteren Showdown, die beste Quelle im Spektrum für eine faire und gründliche Analyse der wichtigsten Themen von heute. Ich bin dein Gastgeber, Eria Quint. Vor fast zweihundert Jahren löste der Tod von Anthony Tanaka eine Revolution aus. Während wir ihn mit der traditionellen Erinnerung von morgen ehren wollen, bereitet sich eine neue Bewegung darauf vor, den 3. Dezember zu nutzen, um die Menschen wieder zum Handeln zu bewegen. Was vor Wochen als Basisbewegung der Humanistischen Gruppe Empire First begann, hat die Erwartungen aller übertroffen, da sich Massen von Menschen aus allen Systemen der UEE auf die Teilnahme an einem weit verbreiteten xeno-ökonomischen Boykott und Protest vorbereiten. Suvi Lorenzo, Anführer und Gründungsmitglied von Empire First, ist heute bei uns, um die Beweggründe ihrer Gruppe zu erklären.
SUVI LORENZO: Danke, dass ich kommen durfte.
ERIA QUINT: Und mit dem Argument für die Vorteile der finanziellen Zusammenarbeit zwischen Human-Alien und uns für seinen zweiten Auftritt, Carte Bosch, VP of Human Affairs der Jysho Corporation.
CARTE BOSCH: Schön, wieder da zu sein.
ERIA QUINT: Vor einigen Wochen gab die Jysho Corporation bekannt, dass sie bis Ende des Jahres ihre zehnte CTR-Tankstelle eröffnen wird und -
CARTE BOSCH: Die Menschen auf Green sind auf dem Vormarsch, da sich der Ellis-Systemhaus zu einem neuen Flaggschiff der CTR entwickelt. Modernste Technik, alles mit Preisen, von denen man schwört, dass sie aus dem letzten Jahrhundert stammen.
ERIA QUINT: Wenn Sie versuchen könnten, die Unterbrechungen und Stöße diesmal auf ein Minimum zu beschränken, Herr Bosch, wäre ich Ihnen dankbar.
CARTE BOSCH: Entschuldigung.
ERIA QUINT: Neben Jysho's Ankündigung kam eine von Ihrer Organisation, Frau Lorenzo, die zu einem Boykott aller CTR-Stores am 3. Dezember aufrief. Was hofft Empire First mit dieser Geste zu erreichen?
SUVI LORENZO: Zunächst möchte ich klarstellen, dass das, was wir tun, in keiner Weise von Fremdenfeindlichkeit angetrieben wird.
CARTE BOSCH: Ha!
ERIA QUINT: Bitte, Herr Bosch.
SUVI LORENZO: Es könnte uns egal sein, dass Jysho von Xi'An geführt wird. Bei diesem Boykott geht es darum, die finanzielle Sicherheit der Menschheit zu erhalten, die ständig wachsende Flut von Krediten einzudämmen, die menschliche Bankkonten verlassen und ihren Weg in außerirdische Taschen finden, und sicherzustellen, dass unsere Regierung kämpft, um unsere Interessen zu schützen, anstatt vor den Launen einer anderen Spezies zu kapitulieren. Hier geht es darum, sicherzustellen, dass die Anführer des Imperiums das Imperium an die erste Stelle setzen.
CARTE BOSCH: Bei diesem Boykott geht es um Angst und Hass und wenig anderes. Es ist das gleiche Muster, das wir in der Geschichte immer wieder gesehen haben, wo wirtschaftliche Ängste als Schirm für die Misshandlung anderer benutzt werden. Im 27. Jahrhundert gab es in Goss die Handelsembargos zum Schutz der Bauern, die das System fast verhungert ließen, im 29. Jahrhundert gab es den schrecklichen Außenseiteraufstand gegen Mya, und jetzt, da wir endlich einen für beide Seiten vorteilhaften Fortschritt in einen dauerhaften Frieden zwischen den Arten machen, erhebt er wieder seinen hässlichen Kopf.
SUVI LORENZO: Es ist leicht für dich, unsere wirtschaftlichen Bedenken einfach abzulehnen, wenn dein Lebensunterhalt direkt damit verbunden ist, den Xi'An zu helfen, Kredite von fleißigen Bürgern und Zivilisten zu stehlen.
CARTE BOSCH: Stehlen? So funktioniert Wirtschaft einfach nicht. Die Credits verschwinden nicht einfach magisch, wenn ein Xi'An sie verdient. Je mehr Geld Jysho verdient, desto besser ist es für die UEE. Diese Kredite beschäftigen Hunderte von Menschen, nicht nur als Angestellte, sondern auch als Spediteure und Hersteller. Und diese Produkte, die die Leute in CTR-Stationen kaufen? Ein erheblicher Teil wird derzeit in der UEE hergestellt und wird nun erstmals über CTR-Filialen in Xi'An-Systemen verkauft.
SUVI LORENZO: Empire First unterstützt den Verkauf von Humanprodukten an die Xi'An und Banu und verkauft sogar deren exklusive Produkte in der UEE. Unser Problem ist, dass, wenn es bereits vollkommen gute menschliche Unternehmen gibt, z.B. Tankstellen im Besitz von Menschen, warum sollten wir sie zwingen, mit Xeno-Kapitalgesellschaften zu konkurrieren?
ERIA QUINT: Das bringt uns zu unserem nächsten Diskussionspunkt. Seit der Ankündigung hat es -
CARTE BOSCH: Warte, ich möchte nur noch auf eine Sache hinweisen. Frau Lorenzo behauptet, dass es bei diesem Boykott darum geht, die Interessen von Humanity zu schützen, aber wir sprechen hier nicht nur von ausländischen Unternehmen. Wie rechtfertigen Sie den Boykott gegen Unternehmen in menschlichem Besitz wie MISC und Esperia? Zum Teufel, was Esperia herstellt, sind Tevarin-basierte Produkte und das Tevarin ist Teil der UEE. Wie kann man sie boykottieren, um das Imperium zuerst zu halten?
SUVI LORENZO: Wir haben uns gegen den Boykott von Esperia ausgesprochen, aber es gibt auch andere Gruppen, die den Protest als Chance nutzen, einige extremere Überzeugungen auszudrücken, die Empire First nicht billigt.
CARTE BOSCH: Das ist eine gute Gesellschaft, die du da hast, Suvi.
SUVI LORENZO: Das könnte ich auch sagen, Verräter.
CARTE BOSCH: Und da ist es! Nur weil ich plötzlich mit Xi'An arbeite, muss ich hassen -
SUVI LORENZO: Denkst du überhaupt an die Familien, von denen du verletzt wirst -
ERIA QUINT: Bitte! Ich möchte euch beide daran erinnern, dass dies Showdown ist und nicht die reine Wahrheit. Von unseren Gästen wird eine gewisse Menge an Anstand erwartet. Wir machen eine kurze Pause, um wieder Ruhe zu finden. Wenn wir zurückkommen, werden unsere beiden Gäste ihre unterschiedlichen und hoffentlich zivilen Perspektiven über die Entscheidung, den Anthony Tanaka Gedenktag als Hintergrund für diesen Protest zu nutzen, darlegen.
TRANSKRIPTUMBRUCH
Automatische Übertragung für S&P- und NFSC-Einreichungen
EP: 57:78 : " Boykott zum Gedenktag".
ERIA QUINT: Es ist wieder einmal Zeit für einen weiteren Showdown, die beste Quelle im Spektrum für eine faire und gründliche Analyse der wichtigsten Themen von heute. Ich bin dein Gastgeber, Eria Quint. Vor fast zweihundert Jahren löste der Tod von Anthony Tanaka eine Revolution aus. Während wir ihn mit der traditionellen Erinnerung von morgen ehren wollen, bereitet sich eine neue Bewegung darauf vor, den 3. Dezember zu nutzen, um die Menschen wieder zum Handeln zu bewegen. Was vor Wochen als Basisbewegung der Humanistischen Gruppe Empire First begann, hat die Erwartungen aller übertroffen, da sich Massen von Menschen aus allen Systemen der UEE auf die Teilnahme an einem weit verbreiteten xeno-ökonomischen Boykott und Protest vorbereiten. Suvi Lorenzo, Anführer und Gründungsmitglied von Empire First, ist heute bei uns, um die Beweggründe ihrer Gruppe zu erklären.
SUVI LORENZO: Danke, dass ich kommen durfte.
ERIA QUINT: Und mit dem Argument für die Vorteile der finanziellen Zusammenarbeit zwischen Human-Alien und uns für seinen zweiten Auftritt, Carte Bosch, VP of Human Affairs der Jysho Corporation.
CARTE BOSCH: Schön, wieder da zu sein.
ERIA QUINT: Vor einigen Wochen gab die Jysho Corporation bekannt, dass sie bis Ende des Jahres ihre zehnte CTR-Tankstelle eröffnen wird und -
CARTE BOSCH: Die Menschen auf Green sind auf dem Vormarsch, da sich der Ellis-Systemhaus zu einem neuen Flaggschiff der CTR entwickelt. Modernste Technik, alles mit Preisen, von denen man schwört, dass sie aus dem letzten Jahrhundert stammen.
ERIA QUINT: Wenn Sie versuchen könnten, die Unterbrechungen und Stöße diesmal auf ein Minimum zu beschränken, Herr Bosch, wäre ich Ihnen dankbar.
CARTE BOSCH: Entschuldigung.
ERIA QUINT: Neben Jysho's Ankündigung kam eine von Ihrer Organisation, Frau Lorenzo, die zu einem Boykott aller CTR-Stores am 3. Dezember aufrief. Was hofft Empire First mit dieser Geste zu erreichen?
SUVI LORENZO: Zunächst möchte ich klarstellen, dass das, was wir tun, in keiner Weise von Fremdenfeindlichkeit angetrieben wird.
CARTE BOSCH: Ha!
ERIA QUINT: Bitte, Herr Bosch.
SUVI LORENZO: Es könnte uns egal sein, dass Jysho von Xi'An geführt wird. Bei diesem Boykott geht es darum, die finanzielle Sicherheit der Menschheit zu erhalten, die ständig wachsende Flut von Krediten einzudämmen, die menschliche Bankkonten verlassen und ihren Weg in außerirdische Taschen finden, und sicherzustellen, dass unsere Regierung kämpft, um unsere Interessen zu schützen, anstatt vor den Launen einer anderen Spezies zu kapitulieren. Hier geht es darum, sicherzustellen, dass die Anführer des Imperiums das Imperium an die erste Stelle setzen.
CARTE BOSCH: Bei diesem Boykott geht es um Angst und Hass und wenig anderes. Es ist das gleiche Muster, das wir in der Geschichte immer wieder gesehen haben, wo wirtschaftliche Ängste als Schirm für die Misshandlung anderer benutzt werden. Im 27. Jahrhundert gab es in Goss die Handelsembargos zum Schutz der Bauern, die das System fast verhungert ließen, im 29. Jahrhundert gab es den schrecklichen Außenseiteraufstand gegen Mya, und jetzt, da wir endlich einen für beide Seiten vorteilhaften Fortschritt in einen dauerhaften Frieden zwischen den Arten machen, erhebt er wieder seinen hässlichen Kopf.
SUVI LORENZO: Es ist leicht für dich, unsere wirtschaftlichen Bedenken einfach abzulehnen, wenn dein Lebensunterhalt direkt damit verbunden ist, den Xi'An zu helfen, Kredite von fleißigen Bürgern und Zivilisten zu stehlen.
CARTE BOSCH: Stehlen? So funktioniert Wirtschaft einfach nicht. Die Credits verschwinden nicht einfach magisch, wenn ein Xi'An sie verdient. Je mehr Geld Jysho verdient, desto besser ist es für die UEE. Diese Kredite beschäftigen Hunderte von Menschen, nicht nur als Angestellte, sondern auch als Spediteure und Hersteller. Und diese Produkte, die die Leute in CTR-Stationen kaufen? Ein erheblicher Teil wird derzeit in der UEE hergestellt und wird nun erstmals über CTR-Filialen in Xi'An-Systemen verkauft.
SUVI LORENZO: Empire First unterstützt den Verkauf von Humanprodukten an die Xi'An und Banu und verkauft sogar deren exklusive Produkte in der UEE. Unser Problem ist, dass, wenn es bereits vollkommen gute menschliche Unternehmen gibt, z.B. Tankstellen im Besitz von Menschen, warum sollten wir sie zwingen, mit Xeno-Kapitalgesellschaften zu konkurrieren?
ERIA QUINT: Das bringt uns zu unserem nächsten Diskussionspunkt. Seit der Ankündigung hat es -
CARTE BOSCH: Warte, ich möchte nur noch auf eine Sache hinweisen. Frau Lorenzo behauptet, dass es bei diesem Boykott darum geht, die Interessen von Humanity zu schützen, aber wir sprechen hier nicht nur von ausländischen Unternehmen. Wie rechtfertigen Sie den Boykott gegen Unternehmen in menschlichem Besitz wie MISC und Esperia? Zum Teufel, was Esperia herstellt, sind Tevarin-basierte Produkte und das Tevarin ist Teil der UEE. Wie kann man sie boykottieren, um das Imperium zuerst zu halten?
SUVI LORENZO: Wir haben uns gegen den Boykott von Esperia ausgesprochen, aber es gibt auch andere Gruppen, die den Protest als Chance nutzen, einige extremere Überzeugungen auszudrücken, die Empire First nicht billigt.
CARTE BOSCH: Das ist eine gute Gesellschaft, die du da hast, Suvi.
SUVI LORENZO: Das könnte ich auch sagen, Verräter.
CARTE BOSCH: Und da ist es! Nur weil ich plötzlich mit Xi'An arbeite, muss ich hassen -
SUVI LORENZO: Denkst du überhaupt an die Familien, von denen du verletzt wirst -
ERIA QUINT: Bitte! Ich möchte euch beide daran erinnern, dass dies Showdown ist und nicht die reine Wahrheit. Von unseren Gästen wird eine gewisse Menge an Anstand erwartet. Wir machen eine kurze Pause, um wieder Ruhe zu finden. Wenn wir zurückkommen, werden unsere beiden Gäste ihre unterschiedlichen und hoffentlich zivilen Perspektiven über die Entscheidung, den Anthony Tanaka Gedenktag als Hintergrund für diesen Protest zu nutzen, darlegen.
TRANSKRIPTUMBRUCH
SHOWDOWN!
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EP: 57:78 : “Remembrance Day Boycott”
ERIA QUINT: It is time once again for another Showdown, the best source on the spectrum for fair and in-depth analysis of today’s most important issues. I’m your host, Eria Quint. It was close to two hundred years ago that the death of Anthony Tanaka sparked a revolution. As we look to honor him with tomorrow’s traditional remembrance, a new movement prepares to use December 3rd to once again ignite people into action. What started weeks ago as a grass roots movement by the Humanist group Empire First has swelled beyond anyone’s expectations as masses of people from every system in the UEE prepare to participate in a widespread xeno-economical boycott and protest. With us today to explain her group’s motivations is Suvi Lorenzo, leader and founding member of Empire First.
SUVI LORENZO: Thanks for having me.
ERIA QUINT: And arguing for the benefits of Human-Alien financial cooperation, joining us for his second appearance, Carte Bosch, VP of Human Affairs for Jysho Corporation.
CARTE BOSCH: Glad to be back.
ERIA QUINT: A few weeks ago, Jysho Corporation announced that they would be opening their tenth CTR fuel station by the end of the year and –
CARTE BOSCH: The people on Green are in for a treat as the Ellis system store is shaping up to be CTR’s new flagship. State of the art everything with prices you’d swear were from last century.
ERIA QUINT: If you could try to keep the interruptions and plugs to a minimum this time around, Mr. Bosch, it would be appreciated.
CARTE BOSCH: Apologies.
ERIA QUINT: Alongside Jysho’s announcement came one from your organization, Ms. Lorenzo, calling for a boycott of all CTR stores on December 3rd. What is Empire First hoping to accomplish by this gesture?
SUVI LORENZO: First off, I want to be clear, that what we are doing is in no way fueled by xenophobia.
CARTE BOSCH: Ha!
ERIA QUINT: Please, Mr. Bosch.
SUVI LORENZO: We could care less that Jysho is run by Xi’An. This boycott is about preserving Humanity’s financial security, about stemming the ever-increasing tide of credits leaving Human bank accounts and finding their way into alien pockets, and about making sure that our government is fighting to protect our interests rather than capitulating to some other species’ whims. This is about making sure that the Empire’s leaders are putting the Empire first.
CARTE BOSCH: This boycott is about fear and hate, and little else. It is the same pattern we have seen time and again throughout history, where economic fears are used as a screen for the mistreatment of others. In the 27th century there were the trade embargos in Goss to protect farmers that nearly left the system starved to death, in the 29th century there was the horrific Outsider uprising on Mya, and now, as we finally are making mutually beneficial headway into a lasting interspecies peace, it rears its ugly head again.
SUVI LORENZO: It’s easy for you to just dismiss our economic concerns when your livelihood is directly tied to helping the Xi’An steal credits from hardworking Citizens and Civilians.
CARTE BOSCH: Steal? That’s just not how economics work. The credits don’t just magically disappear if a Xi’An earns them. The more money Jysho makes, the better it is for the UEE. Those credits are employing hundreds of Humans, not just as clerks but as haulers and manufacturers. And those products people are buying in CTR stations? A significant amount are currently made in the UEE, and are now, for the first time, being sold through CTR stores in Xi’An systems.
SUVI LORENZO: Empire First fully supports selling Human products to the Xi’An and Banu, and even selling their exclusive products in the UEE. Our issue is that when there are already perfectly good Human businesses in place, Human-owned fuel stations for example, why should we force them to compete with xeno-corporations?
ERIA QUINT: Which brings us to our next point of discussion. Since the announcement there has -
CARTE BOSCH: Wait, I just want to point out one more thing. Ms. Lorenzo claims that this boycott is about protecting Humanity’s interest, but we’re not just talking alien-owned companies here. How do you justify the boycott targeting Human-owned companies like MISC and Esperia? Hell, what Esperia makes are Tevarin-based products and the Tevarin are part of the UEE. How is boycotting them keeping the Empire First?
SUVI LORENZO: We have come out against boycotting Esperia, but there are other groups who are using the protest as a chance to express some more extreme beliefs that Empire First does not condone.
CARTE BOSCH: That’s some fine company you’re keeping there, Suvi.
SUVI LORENZO: I could say the same thing, traitor.
CARTE BOSCH: And there it is! Just because I work with Xi’An all of a sudden I must hate -
SUVI LORENZO: Do you even think about the families you’re hurting by -
ERIA QUINT: Please! I’d like to remind both of you that this is Showdown and not the Plain Truth. A certain amount of decorum is expected from our guests. We are going to take a short break to regain some composure. When we come back, our two guests will offer their differing, and hopefully civil, perspectives about the decision to use Anthony Tanaka Remembrance Day as the backdrop for this protest.
TRANSCRIPT BREAK
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EP: 57:78 : “Remembrance Day Boycott”
ERIA QUINT: It is time once again for another Showdown, the best source on the spectrum for fair and in-depth analysis of today’s most important issues. I’m your host, Eria Quint. It was close to two hundred years ago that the death of Anthony Tanaka sparked a revolution. As we look to honor him with tomorrow’s traditional remembrance, a new movement prepares to use December 3rd to once again ignite people into action. What started weeks ago as a grass roots movement by the Humanist group Empire First has swelled beyond anyone’s expectations as masses of people from every system in the UEE prepare to participate in a widespread xeno-economical boycott and protest. With us today to explain her group’s motivations is Suvi Lorenzo, leader and founding member of Empire First.
SUVI LORENZO: Thanks for having me.
ERIA QUINT: And arguing for the benefits of Human-Alien financial cooperation, joining us for his second appearance, Carte Bosch, VP of Human Affairs for Jysho Corporation.
CARTE BOSCH: Glad to be back.
ERIA QUINT: A few weeks ago, Jysho Corporation announced that they would be opening their tenth CTR fuel station by the end of the year and –
CARTE BOSCH: The people on Green are in for a treat as the Ellis system store is shaping up to be CTR’s new flagship. State of the art everything with prices you’d swear were from last century.
ERIA QUINT: If you could try to keep the interruptions and plugs to a minimum this time around, Mr. Bosch, it would be appreciated.
CARTE BOSCH: Apologies.
ERIA QUINT: Alongside Jysho’s announcement came one from your organization, Ms. Lorenzo, calling for a boycott of all CTR stores on December 3rd. What is Empire First hoping to accomplish by this gesture?
SUVI LORENZO: First off, I want to be clear, that what we are doing is in no way fueled by xenophobia.
CARTE BOSCH: Ha!
ERIA QUINT: Please, Mr. Bosch.
SUVI LORENZO: We could care less that Jysho is run by Xi’An. This boycott is about preserving Humanity’s financial security, about stemming the ever-increasing tide of credits leaving Human bank accounts and finding their way into alien pockets, and about making sure that our government is fighting to protect our interests rather than capitulating to some other species’ whims. This is about making sure that the Empire’s leaders are putting the Empire first.
CARTE BOSCH: This boycott is about fear and hate, and little else. It is the same pattern we have seen time and again throughout history, where economic fears are used as a screen for the mistreatment of others. In the 27th century there were the trade embargos in Goss to protect farmers that nearly left the system starved to death, in the 29th century there was the horrific Outsider uprising on Mya, and now, as we finally are making mutually beneficial headway into a lasting interspecies peace, it rears its ugly head again.
SUVI LORENZO: It’s easy for you to just dismiss our economic concerns when your livelihood is directly tied to helping the Xi’An steal credits from hardworking Citizens and Civilians.
CARTE BOSCH: Steal? That’s just not how economics work. The credits don’t just magically disappear if a Xi’An earns them. The more money Jysho makes, the better it is for the UEE. Those credits are employing hundreds of Humans, not just as clerks but as haulers and manufacturers. And those products people are buying in CTR stations? A significant amount are currently made in the UEE, and are now, for the first time, being sold through CTR stores in Xi’An systems.
SUVI LORENZO: Empire First fully supports selling Human products to the Xi’An and Banu, and even selling their exclusive products in the UEE. Our issue is that when there are already perfectly good Human businesses in place, Human-owned fuel stations for example, why should we force them to compete with xeno-corporations?
ERIA QUINT: Which brings us to our next point of discussion. Since the announcement there has -
CARTE BOSCH: Wait, I just want to point out one more thing. Ms. Lorenzo claims that this boycott is about protecting Humanity’s interest, but we’re not just talking alien-owned companies here. How do you justify the boycott targeting Human-owned companies like MISC and Esperia? Hell, what Esperia makes are Tevarin-based products and the Tevarin are part of the UEE. How is boycotting them keeping the Empire First?
SUVI LORENZO: We have come out against boycotting Esperia, but there are other groups who are using the protest as a chance to express some more extreme beliefs that Empire First does not condone.
CARTE BOSCH: That’s some fine company you’re keeping there, Suvi.
SUVI LORENZO: I could say the same thing, traitor.
CARTE BOSCH: And there it is! Just because I work with Xi’An all of a sudden I must hate -
SUVI LORENZO: Do you even think about the families you’re hurting by -
ERIA QUINT: Please! I’d like to remind both of you that this is Showdown and not the Plain Truth. A certain amount of decorum is expected from our guests. We are going to take a short break to regain some composure. When we come back, our two guests will offer their differing, and hopefully civil, perspectives about the decision to use Anthony Tanaka Remembrance Day as the backdrop for this protest.
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- 11 years ago (2014-12-03T00:00:00+00:00)